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How to Use Any 3D DLP Projector Together with 3D Vision

December 24th, 2010 · 23 Comments · GeForce 3D Vision


I’m getting a lot of questions from people that bought a 3D DLP projector how to make it work with 3D Vision and when I see the device model I immediately notice that it is not in the list of 3D Vision-certified DLP projectors. This means that you will not be able to just connect the projector, install the drivers and everything to start working with 3D Vision, it normally means you cannot make things work, however you are not out of options. You can make a simple modification that will make things work somewhat, but there might also be some side effects, so you should be careful. Most of the 3D DLP projectors use the DSUB15 analog connector for connecting and transferring 3D data, however the more recent Nvidia-based video cards do come with digital DVI outputs only. So in order not to destroy the VGA cable, you will also need a simple VGA to DVI adapter like the one on the picture above (in this case a single link DVI-A) to make things work, but you can also use a single or dual link DVI-I (DVI-D will not work). Then you just have to break the two pins that are pointed out with red arrows on the picture and you are almost ready to go…

The two pins you are going to remove from the adapter are used for the Extended display identification data (EDID), a standard that is used to identify a monitor connected to a PC and what the display is capable of (resolutions and refresh rates). Without those two pins the computer will not be able to automatically recognize the projector you are connecting and it will be treated as a generic analogue display (CRT), because you are using the adapter connected to the projector through a VGA cable. And since the 3D Vision drivers actually do support all sorts of CRT displays if they can manage to provide you with at least 100Hz refresh rate, you can pass the 3D Vision Setup Wizard and have 3D Vision working. But before that you will need to load up some sort of a driver to let windows know what modes or refresh rates your “CRT display” actually supports. I prefer to use the Nvidia Control Panel and add a custom resolution at 120Hz refresh rate and work with that, instead of loading a driver for Acer H5360 for example for other 720p capable not officially supported 3D DLP Projector.

As I’ve mentioned already, this method works in order to allow you to enable the 3D Vision to work with pretty much any 3D DLP projector, treating the projector as a CRT display. The problem that you might get is related to the fact that you may get the left and right frames reversed and that can ruin the experience, unless you want to wear your glasses upside down. There are some measures to help you counter that issue, like reversion the left and right frames of a video from the software player you may be using or the photo viewer for 3D photos, some projectors also have a built in mode to reverse the left/right frames although that does not always work and so on.

List of 3D Vision-Ready DLP Projectors:

– Acer X1261-3D
– Acer X1130P
– Acer H5360
– Acer X1110
– BenQ MS612ST
– DepthQ HD 3D Projector by LightSpeed Design, Inc.
– DQ-3120 by LightSpeed Design, Inc.
– Optoma GT360
– Optoma GT720
– Optoma HD67
– Optoma HD66
– Optoma HW536
– Optoma IS500
– Optoma XE149
– NEC NP216
– Sanyo PDG-DWL2500
– ViewSonic PJD6531w
– ViewSonic PJD6220-3D
– ViewSonic PJD6210-3D
– ViewSonic PJD5351
– ViewSonic PJD5111
– ViewSonic PJD6381
– ViewSonic PJD6211
– ViewSonic PJD6221
– ViewSonic PJD6241
– ViewSonic PJD6251
– ViewSonic PJD5112

What I would recommend however is to save a lot of trouble and just go for a 3D Vision certified 3D projector if you are now going to buy one from the list above, especially when talking about gaming in stereo 3D mode. Obviously going for Acer, Optoma or Viewsonic should be the best choice as they already have a wide product line that supports 3D and you can choose the best model that fits your requirements better. But if you’ve already bought a 3D DLP projector that is not officially supported and you don’t want/have additional money to spend for a new one, then the above method might help you get things running…

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  • 1 chun // Dec 24, 2010 at 05:20

    thanks~
    I am going to try. I bought dell xps laptop but I can’t see 3d effects with Viewsonic PJD6531W projector. Always use the 3d vision discover mode.
    Hope your method can save my life. Both Dell and Nvidia just keep telling me update driver….

  • 2 Bloody // Dec 24, 2010 at 12:50

    In your case the projector should work as it is a 3D Vision ready model, but there were some issues with the fact that the projector’s native resolution is 1280×800 and it can work in 3D mode at up to 1280×720 (720p). Still if it doe snot work, it is worth trying with this method.

  • 3 chun // Dec 24, 2010 at 15:36

    Nvidia reply me the display card of this XPS laptop is not compatible…

    “As per the specification of the laptop at the dell web site (http://www.dell.com/us/p/xps-15/pd ) it lists the option of two graphics card NVIDIA GT435M GeForce® and NVIDIA GT420M GeForce®, neither of them are the compatible graphics card for NVIDIA 3D Vision. Please visit the link below to confirm the same.”

    I have tried the 1280*720 method u share in the past but still in 3d vision discover mode. Both Dell and Nvidia ‘ support has not replied my question directly….

  • 4 chun // Dec 24, 2010 at 15:38

    sorry duplicate response..please delete previous post

    and the screen display 1280*720 in 120Hz, but in anaglyph mode.

  • 5 jubei // Dec 26, 2010 at 20:44

    xd600u I have a mitsubishi projector with vga dvi adapter I got the nvidia 3d assistant recognize my projector as a crt.
    But when I start the wizard automatically goes to 1600X1200 resolution so it only supports 85 hz and the 3D does not work.
    As I can do to make the run at 1024X768 3D Assistant and thus supports 120 hz?

    thank you very much in advance.
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  • 6 Bloody // Dec 26, 2010 at 21:40

    Jubei, try adding a custom resolution with a 120Hz refresh rate through the Nvidia control panel, like 1024×768@120Hz if you need that, switch to it and then try running the wizard. Alternatively you can load up a driver for another 3D DLP projector that supports 1024×768@120Hz (or make a custom INF driver file with the supported resolution and refresh rate you need). A restart may also be needed for things to work properly before running the setup wizard for 3D Vision…

  • 7 jubei // Dec 27, 2010 at 14:12

    first of all thank you very much for answering so soon.
    I can put the screen resolution from the nvidia control panel to 1024X768, 120 hz without any problem.
    and the projector works perfectly.
    and all my pc programs also work perfectly in that resolution and hz.
    The problem starts when I run the configuration wizard nvidia 3d.
    As you open the wizard window, the projector offers a resolution of 1600X1200 and 85 hz are the maximum that my projector supports that resolution.
    I just need to know what I have to do to keep nvidia 3d wizard automatically change the resolution when it runs.
    I think the hardest part, which was that the computer think my projector is actually a CRT is already done. took a year trying to solve that problem.

    many thanks again for your quick response, really I am really very grateful. and I can not wait to play the latest games I have and I can not play with the original cd drivers from nvidia, which are, for now, the only ones that work.
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  • 8 Chris K. // Dec 27, 2010 at 19:55

    Interesting article/hack.

    A little off-topic, I’m curious what folks’ experience is with the quality of 3D using DLP with shutter glasses. Seeing all the crosstalk issues with LCD flat panels (and even some with plasma, although my tests at stores didn’t notice it nearly as much) I’ve thought DLP would be the way to go.

    Maybe I’ll bite the bullet and build a DLP-based setup.

  • 9 Jacob // Jan 3, 2011 at 13:55

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA7wrU0iI5o

    This should work for any 720p 3d dlp projector and another driver would work on a 1080p :)

  • 10 Chris K. // Jan 3, 2011 at 20:48

    Considered buying a DLP projector this weekend (in between sessions of Minecraft.) I’d very much like a 1080p (native, particularly the Optoma HD20) projector that worked with 3d Vision, looks like either of these hacks will do it? I don’t necessarily want to play games at 1080p in 3D (expecting I’d have to spend $2k on a desktop that would handle that high of a resolution), just want to be future-proof in my display tech.

  • 11 jubei // Jan 8, 2011 at 10:30

    I can not solve my problem through the control panel.
    So I guess I’ll have to install any drivers compatible projector nvidia3d list.
    The youtube video that has since jacob is very interesting, but my projector (Mitsubishi xd600u) works 1024/768 so I can not use the inf file. is in that video.
    Someone can put a link to a file. inf a projector that works to support 3dnvidia 1024/768?
    many thanks again.

  • 12 marksman // Aug 26, 2011 at 22:51

    Connect the beamer by DVI or HDMI, install the Acer-diver instead of the originall being installed when connecting the beamer…voila, everything´s fine without removing any pin!

    Just install the Acer driver, and it works!!! I got my Onkyo AV-reciver to work with 3D Vision just by doing so… ^^

  • 13 marksman // Aug 26, 2011 at 22:55

    by the way: on stereoforum.org I found a modified driver from Acer H5360 that is also capable for 5.1-Sourround (added Sound-support from an Onkyo-Reciver)

    stereoscopic greetings from germany!

  • 14 roberto // Oct 11, 2011 at 17:36

    it works 1000000000 thanks vivitek d510

  • 15 roberto // Oct 12, 2011 at 20:00

    y have a problem when i change to full screen it goes to 85 hz how i can change that

  • 16 Klaus // Nov 4, 2011 at 20:21

    Hi, Ive tried your Way and it Works until ive started the NVIDIA 3D setup. Projektor Cant Display the mode. Its strange because ive selected the User specific size 1280×720 120 hz and this is working via VGA.
    Hope you can help.

    Im using current Drivers.

    Regards,
    Klaus

  • 17 viktor // Dec 18, 2011 at 00:49

    I am undecided whether to take a K330 Acer or an Acer H5360?
    Acer K330 does not suport 3d vision, but has a lamp life of 20000 hours, for the 3d I could try your method?
    or should I?

  • 18 Mike // Jan 20, 2012 at 03:36

    I bought the Acer P1303W its awsome for the price. You do have to go through a computer to get the 3D to work. I have a AMD FX 6 core proccesor and ATI 6770HD card that supports 3D. I then bought a Blu Ray 3d Internal Burner from LG for 77 bucks which is really nice. I got the Expand x102 Active glasses designed for most DLP 3D Ready Projectors they are price well and look great. I thought i was screwed when the 3d didnt work when i put a blu ray 3d movie in and played it thru my Projector. My resolution was correct and at 120hz. I found out after messing around for about an hour that the software that came with my Blue Ray 3d player didnt work with my projector which is POWER DVD 9. I found a program called TotalMedia Theatre 5! As soon as i installed it and played the blu ray 3d movie and turned the glasses on everything worked!!! I had to adjust a few settings but nothing major. Dont forget not all projectors have to go thru a computer to work but you will prob pay more for them.
    What’s great about it: The piture quality is awesome looks great in 1080P

    Problems
    What’s not so great: Not very much information about how to set these things up and hardly any information at all about how to set up the 3D

  • 19 kc // Feb 12, 2012 at 20:09

    i have the benq ms500 dlp 3d projector and i could not get it to work using this method of removing the pins, its got me stumped. i tryed to make my own resolution didnt work said it was out of range and that was at 800×700 @120hz, i rang benq and they said the projector runs at 120 hz so i dont know why its not working, i think i will have to try mikes way and get a bluray 3d internal burner for my computer and try it that way

  • 20 Rick Anderson // Feb 21, 2012 at 15:59

    I also have a BenQ MS500. I was able to use it in 3D using Stereoscopic Player and an ATI Radeon 5450 but the video was choppy on larger files. So, I upgraded to a GTX 560. Now, when I use Stereoscopic player, the refresh rate changes from 120hz to 85hz in full screen mode! NO 3D! Any ideas on how to fix this? How can I force the refresh to 120z, which the projector supports?

  • 21 alienloop // Apr 20, 2012 at 20:43

    maybe try an edid (inf) for 120 hz

  • 22 hat // Sep 3, 2012 at 12:20

    Jacob // Jan 3, 2011 at 13:55

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA7wrU0iI5o

    This should work for any 720p 3d dlp projector and another driver would work on a 1080p :)
    thanks that acer 5360 inf driver worked for BenQ MS500
    for the first time i could see 3D at MVIDIA setup wizard – the next step is setup STEREOSCOPIC player for viewing videos..

  • 23 Jonathan Hersey // Jun 11, 2013 at 06:38

    What about the LG series of DLP 3D Projectors? I am getting the HDMI 1.4 standard LG PA75U unit and In the manual it supports single frame sequential and tons of other modes for 3d as well SBS T&B Field Alt, etc… Will using an EDID hack or bending the EDID pins work with any projector? Even the LG one I mentioned? I wonder if the PA75U supports undocumented 120hz modes like the Older HDMI 1.3 series LG PA70G… Any info would be awesome! thanks guys!

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