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Ripping and Encoding Blu-ray 3D Movies for 3D Vision is Now Possible

May 9th, 2010 · 15 Comments · General 3D News


The movie Monsters vs Aliens has been available on Blu-ray 3D for some time as a bundle with different products for Samsung’s 3D HDTVs and not sold separately. And next month we’ll probably see the Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs as the first available with and without any bundles from Sony. If you do own a Blu-ray 3D hardware player then you should be quite Ok, but then again if you also have a 3D Vision equipped PC or any other stereo 3D setup on your computer you are still out of luck. We’ve got a promise that all of the major DVD Video/Blu-ray Video software players for the PC will support Blu-ray 3D and 3D Vision, probably along with other solutions, but we still don’t have any of these released with the promised support as of this time. And the four major players with expected Blu-ray 3D support are as follows: Arcsoft TotalMedia Theatre, Corel WinDVD, Cyberlink PowerDVD Ultra and Sonic Roxio CinePlayer BD.

So desperate times call for desperate measures to have a solution that will enable you to view a Blu-ray 3D movie on your 3D Vision equipped PC even right at this moment and it did not take too much time to have that available when more people started to work on it and share information about it. The credits go to a user called alexpk over at the Biohemmet Forum that not only found a solution to the problem (link at the end of the post), but also shared a guide for other users to try it out and maybe even further improve it. The currently available solution is not the easiest to do and has some specific requirements like a lot of free space on the HDDs and quite some time for processing even on fast PC, but it does work and that is the most important. Have in mind that in order to view the guide you’ll have to do a free registration over at the linked forum.

As you know the Blu-ray 3D format is a somewhat specific development over the normal Blu-ray video discs and this is to be expected in order for the backwards compatibility to be retained, so that when you play Blu-ray 3D disc on a normal Blu-ray video player you will still be able to watch the normal 2D version fo the movie without any issues. Thus the Blu-ray 3D format uses one stream with the full frame for the left eye (the so called 2D version of the movie) and additional information for the right frame that is needed to build the stereoscopic 3D view with the help of a capable Blu-ray 3D software or a hardware player that will understand the new format. and in order not to double the video information needed for both left and right frames on the Blu-ray disc (it is still limited in space available) the video data for the right eye frame is not complete as for the left frame, but just the delta (difference) between the left and right frames. Thus the additional space needed for the full Blu-ray 3D content is not doubled as it would’ve been with the full visual data for the left and right frames, but is instead increased with just about 30-40% that is needed for the difference information. Then when the video is being played back the delta information is used to reconstruct the full frame from the left eye view and the viewer sees the end result in great stereo 3D.

But without having a dedicated Blu-ray 3D software video players yet we have no way of playing back the videos from such discs with the help of what video players are currently available. So instead we need to rip the Blu-ray 3D movie and then reconstruct the right frame from the delta (frame difference) information and then recompress the left/right views again into a video format that the 3D Vision Video Player or the Stereoscopic Player for example will understand and playback on a 3D Vision equipped computer. So this is basically what the guide provided by the user called alexpk is all about, although as I said you need to use some specific software programs in the process and they do require you to have a bit of knowledge about working in a console mode and video compression to achieve a good result. Then again you also need to have a lot of free space, and I mean really a lot, as the reconstructed video information is being saved as raw video data and that practically takes a few gigabytes of space per minute. Then you should also be ready for quite some time in waiting for your PC to recompress the raw video data so it will again take much less space and will be easier to store and archive. And not to mention that this will also require you to have some patience and time to experiment a bit and try different things until you find the best solution that works for you. But then again the most important thing is that we now have a solution, although not the easiest to do, to actually enjoy Blu-ray 3D movies on our PCs that are stereo 3D-ready too until we see some of the promised commercial solutions that will allow us to play the Blu-ray 3D video without all the additional hassle.


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15 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Phil // May 9, 2010 at 17:08

    Great, just what I was waiting for :-)

  • 2 StarKnight // May 9, 2010 at 17:39

    This is not a good news anyway just like it wasn’t GeoHot’s announce of a possible PS3 exploit which led Sony to remove Other OS support from the newest firmwares.

    We all know that this is what piracy was waiting for… a way to rip and share 3D blu-rays. This will make majors even more reluctant to release 3D movies for the near future.

  • 3 Philip Heggie // May 9, 2010 at 17:46

    No one will share these rips if it isn’t anaglyph Joe Blow wouldn’t know what to do with it. The loss to movie industry will be
    miniscule – unmeasurable.

  • 4 StarKnight // May 9, 2010 at 18:16

    Well… if you have the original L/R streams ripped you can easily create an anaglyph version using StereoMovie Maker but also consider that all 3D TVs on the market can play side-by-side movies like stereo movies (with half resolution, of course) and this is far enough for many people…

  • 5 ... // May 10, 2010 at 10:53

    StarKnight, first Sony had announced there plans to remove Other OS support long before GeoHot announced his plans to hack the PS3 let alone the possible exploit. And second there are already 3 independent studies that claim that in fact the pirates are the people that buy more than the average customer and 2 that claim the industry in fact started making more money since the piracy became more popular than before …

  • 6 Craylon // May 10, 2010 at 13:24

    if the movies get released in left and right streams you dont even need to reincode with smm. you just load both into the stereoscopic player and choose what outpunt (anaglyph with different color choices, interlace, up/down…) you want.
    imho releasing it in anaglyph defeats the whole purpose…

  • 7 Craylon // May 10, 2010 at 13:31

    ps.:
    on a personal level (just me), alexpk work actually helped the industry. i cancelled my pre-order of cloudy… a few days ago since we don’t have any words on a working software-player sollution yet. after seeing the quality of the rip and knowing it will work i instantly reactivated my order and probably will buy almost any 3dbd once they are available.

  • 8 jeremy // Jun 23, 2010 at 23:34

    The link is dead, there is nothing on this forum, it’s a fake.

  • 9 Bloody // Jun 24, 2010 at 00:56

    You need to be registered and logged in in order to view forum topic, otherwise you get an error…

  • 10 Georg // Jun 27, 2010 at 17:49

    is all this really needed? With Arcsoft or PowerDVD 10 you simply mount a BR3D (using demon tools) and you can output even in 3dtv/”rd ready” format. There is really no reason to convert the Blu-Ray to L/R streams…EXCEPT of course that it would be far less in size. (As opposed to 40gb of a blu ray).

  • 11 Arka // Nov 10, 2010 at 16:14

    I cant find the guide!?
    I registered and I see the topic – and I see PPL discussing the guide – but I cant find the actual guide!

    Can some1 help please?

  • 12 Bloody // Nov 10, 2010 at 16:19

    The manual guide is probably gone, because the process was automated and simplified in the software they’ve released and is currently called 3DBDBuster .

  • 13 Helifax // Nov 29, 2010 at 00:27

    Anyone actually converted something? what is the time estimated? I am waiting for like 8 hours already…and still converting…ripping…

  • 14 Marcia Clark // Apr 23, 2011 at 13:08

    Yes….. use DVDFab to rip the file into TS format. Use Badaboom to convert to iPod classic.

    Make sure you use left/right and 50% of frame. With this, you can use Vuzix 310XL video goggles and view movies in 3D without a special TV. These have a 3D mode in them for Side/by/side viewing of 3D and it works great!

    Time to convert both sets on an i3 = 3 hours for a 2 hr. 3DBluray

    The reason you don’t use DVDFab to make the MP4 is that it goes way out of spec by encoding the MP4 as High 5.1 profile video (according to MP4Box). TS is an MPEG-2 format and is compatible with Badaboom.

  • 15 zeus // Jun 1, 2011 at 09:35

    Good!!!!

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